Earlier this month, the Department of Defense told the members of the Transgender Service that they had to choose whether they would voluntarily or involuntarily separate from the military.
Four members of the trans service that are now in the separation process did not say that nothing about their decisions is voluntary at all.
“No one feels that this is voluntary,” said Emily Shilling, a navy commander and president of Sparta, a non -profit group that advocates members of the Trans Service. “This is coercion. This is under coercion.”
President Donald Trump signed an executive order for a week in his administration that prohibits trans people from getting to or serve in the army. Trans service members demanded, and a federal judge temporarily blocked the order to arise effect. Then, last month, the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to enforce the order. Days later, the Department of Defense issued a guide that required that the members of the active service service will be voluntarily self -identified as diagnosed with gender dysphoria, which is the anguish that results from a misalignment between the sex of birth and gender identity, before June 6 and the members of the reserve service to self -identify before July 7.
After that, said the guide, the military will find members of the Trans Service who did not self -identify through medical preparation programs and will begin to separate them involuntarily. The members of the affected service “are eligible for a variety of benefits,” said the guide, including separation payment, “which will be higher for those who self -identify and agree a voluntary separation.”
However, many details are still unknown, such as what benefits can access the members of the Trans Service and if all will receive honorable downloads. Nor is it clear how many members of the service will be affected. A little more than 4,000 transgender people currently serve in the Army, according to data from the Department of Defense, and the department said last month that around 1,000 Trans Service have begun the process of separation of the military after voluntarily identifying themselves. The department said Tuesday that it does not have an updated number of members of the affected service.
“The characterization of the service will be honorable, except when the registration of the service member guarantees a lower characterization,” said a United States defense official in a statement to NBC News. “Military services will follow normal processes for administrative separation.”
The four members of the trans service that spoke with NBC News emphasized that they are talking in their personal capacity and not on behalf of their respective branches. The most important question that everyone faces is what comes next.
Bree Fram
On June 30, 2016, the day of the then Secretary of Defense Ash Carter announced that transgender people could serve openly in the army, Bree Fram, who was then a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force, went out with his teammates in an email as a trans woman and then went to burn her nerves in the gym.
When he returned to his desk later, he said that his colleagues approached her one by one, he shook his hand and said a version of “It is an honor to serve you.”
Fram, who is 46 years old and is now a colonel of the United States space force in the Pentagon, said the scene was repeated earlier this month with leaders from other branches of the army when he told them that it would be their last meeting with them. An officer sitting next to him asked where he was going, and she said: “They put me on administrative license because I do not find the standards of this administration for military excellence and preparation.”
Fram said there was a moment of silence before it seems that his colleagues realized what policy he was referring to, because, he said, the members of the trans service do not “enter a room and lead with our identity.”
“I enter a room and someone sees a colonel, and see the uniform, and see all the things that represent my experience and my experience,” said Fram, who is one of the highest trans officials of the army.

Then, Fram said his colleagues approached, one by one, and shook his hand and said, again, it had been an honor to serve her.
Fram, who served for 22 years until he was placed on administrative license on June 6, was the Director of Integration of Requirements for Space Force. She helped identify future technological abilities that the military will need and provided the developers to build them. She said she planned to serve “for many years”, because he loved his work and the team he worked with.
Fram said he doesn’t know what he will do next, but he hopes he works in the public service.
“I believe in this country, although you may not believe in me right now,” said Fram. “The oath that I swore and the ideals that are integrated into the Constitution still care, and I think it is worth fighting.”
Sam Rodríguez
Sam Rodríguez, 38, was recently commissioned as an officer of the Medical Services Corps in the Navy and was supposed to begin the officers training school and then a two -year clinical scholarship in San Diego to become a licensed clinical social worker. However, approximately one week after the decision of the Supreme Court allowed the trans prohibition to emerge effect, Rodríguez, who uses they/they pronouns, said the Navy canceled those orders.

“It was really heartbreaking to receive that news,” Rodríguez said. They enlisted in 2015 and planned to serve for 15 or 20 years, when they would have left the Navy as a social worker with an experienced license. However, they will now go with their mastery in social work, and they will have to find an employer who is willing to provide supervision to receive their clinical license, which will be more difficult.
They sent their resignation earlier this month and requested a separation date in autumn. They said they do not believe that they can find an entry level work as a civilian that coincides with their current salary, housing subsidy, medical care benefits and the stipend that they and their wife can pay for child care for their two children.
They plan to transfer their family from San Diego to Washington, DC, so that they can get more involved in the defense of policies. Outside work, they are members of the Board and Membership Directors of Sparta.
“People need to realize that this is a national security problem,” said Rodríguez, pointing out the investigation of the modern military association of America, a defense group of the LGBTQ military and veterans, who found that 73% of the members of the Trans Service have between 12 and 21 years of experience.
“We are not going to be one for one exchanged tomorrow, and some people will take two decades replace,” they said.
Emily Shilling
Shilling, 42, is the highest ranking person in the Navy after having served for almost two decades, even in more than 60 combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was also one of the main plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the prohibition of the administration.
After Trump was chosen, he requested to retire in autumn. His intention was to terminate that retirement because he expected the prohibition of trans troops to be blocked, but with the policy in force, his last day was June 12, and will officially retire in September.

“I am deeply disconsolate because this is how my career is over, but also deeply proud of what I have done,” Shilling said. “I lived my dream. I did everything I always wanted in the navy and I did it honorably, and I felt proud. I could be leaving the navy, but I am not renouncing this fight. I am choosing to assume this fight in a different way.”
Shilling said that the Navy invested $ 40 million in training it, and as a result it has many desirable skills and has already accepted an offer to work in advanced defense and development technologies. However, he said that his story is rare among members of the Trans Service, thousands of whom will seek private sector work for the first time.
Shilling said that the lawsuit against the ban will return to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals for a hearing in October, but by that time, the majority of the members of the Trans Service will be out of the army.
“The irreparable damage is done now,” he said.
Alex Shaffer
Alex Shaffer, 48, joined the Army as a combat doctor at the Oregon Army National Guard in 2007. His mentors in the Guard convinced him to go to school to become a medical assistant, and now he also works in a private family practice like PA.

“In all the military, it is a family,” Shaffer said about what he has enjoyed serving in the guard.

Shaffer said he planned to stay in the guard “until I couldn’t serve physically or threw me for being too old.” I was in the process of trying to commission as an officer. However, his last exercise was on June 7, because the process began to separate from the National Guard as a result of the prohibition. (The National Guard only provides retirement benefits to the members of the service if a medical evaluation board considers them physically not suitable for the service).
“I’m devastated,” Shaffer said. “It is a loss of identity for me. I have been a soldier for so long, and it is part of what I am.”