Political campaigns may be significantly out of base when it comes to the number of people who say they are present in campaign demonstrations throughout the country, according to CBC news investigation.
Both conservatives and liberals have celebrated great demonstrations since the beginning of federal elections, with conservatives in particular emphasizing the size of their events.
The CBC News visual team with people with images in images taken in four demonstrations throughout the country: conservative manifestations in Surrey, BC, and near Edmonton, and liberal events in Toronto and Richmond, BC
The research, including the analysis of experts from the scientists of the crowd, shows that the real number of people attending these demonstrations was probably much lower than the counts of the campaigns published on social networks or journalists were informed in the events.
The conservatives said that the Edmonton area rally was attended by 15,000 people, for example. CBC News counted approximately 1,558 in a panoramic photo shared by the campaign. Even assuming that a large number of attendees were lost due to perspective or obstruction, 15,000 “are not possible,” according to G. Keith Still, an expert in dynamics and security of the crowd, who is a visiting professor of sciences of the crowd at the University of Suffolk.
CBC News still requested to analyze the events. His hands counts were similar to those of our team for the four events. He still did not point out that the counted hands have a margin of error of five percent.
How are the 15,000
As a comparison, the NHL Arena de Winnipeg, the Canadian life center, has a maximum capacity of 15,321.
Similarly, the liberals said their Rally in Richmond had 2,000 people in the main room. The CBC News count, corroborated by still, puts the number closer to 800. The manual count, as with the other manifestations, was carried out by dividing the images into grids and counting the visible heads.

Crowd sizes are often difficult to estimate, and those counted by hand are not perfect. The CBC News count could be lower than the real number of people in the room, since attendees may not have been counted by a variety of reasons: they were behind the camera or not in the shot, they were darkened by a sign, another person or an object, or the image perspective may have meant that they were hidden. To address these limitations, the photos of the manifestations campaign were compared with videos and images, from social networks, showing other perspectives for the count to include most of those present.
Manually content the heads is the most reliable way to determine the size of the crowd, according to Still.
“But for that you need a good high angle, good clear views, reasonably good lighting, and then a lot of time to count the heads,” he said.
Chronologically, the first event examined was the conservative demonstration on March 27 in Surrey. He claimed part 5,500 attendees.
CBC News counted approximately 1,522 in an image Posted by Campaign.
Photography is, in many ways, ideal to count: its high definition and captures much of the area from a high angle. But some attendees were at the mezzanine of the place (from which photography seems to have been taken) and were not counted, while some could have been surprised in the corners of the room.
Even so, the hands count would have needed to miss three times more people who were seen in the image so that the official count is precise.
The next rally examined was the liberal meeting in Toronto on March 28. Liberal officials said Reporters There were 1,800 people in the room.
CBC News told 710 in a compound image created from a Photo posted by the campaign and images of Event video.
Once again, some people were probably surprised due to limited perspective. But there should have been more than twice as many people present, but not counted, so that the campaign count is precise.

Next, the conservative campaign said his rally near Edmonton He had more than 15,000 people.
Here, the size of the crowd and the space caused the panorama taken by the campaign to be more difficult to analyze than others, and CBC News could count 1,558 people.
That said, when examining other images, the team identified three pockets of people that was lost, and poor video quality made it impossible to tell them. Even so, these groups do not take into account more than 10,000 missing attendees.
He still says he told 1,772 people.
The campaign account is 10 times higher, he says. “It is not possible.”
For the liberal demonstration in Richmond, CBC News analyzed images that show an alternative perspective and coincident assistants near the rear of the room to the picture of the campaign, establishing that the majority of the crowd was captured. The manual count, corroborated by still, brings the number of attendees to 756.
The party said that 2,000 people were in the main room.
The parties respond
The conservative campaign said in a statement that “the scientific assumptions of the crowd” consulted for this research “are clearly wrong”, and adds that the “RSVP account, as well as those who enter the place”.
The party did not answer follow -up questions about how RSVP numbers reconcile and counts at the scene, nor did it directly answer a request for comments on the CBC News manual count. The party pointed out a RCMP estimate that the rally near Edmonton had between 9,000 and 12,000 people.
The RCMP says that this number was a “general estimate” of detachment in Leduc, high., And it was “based on observations of the members on the scene.”
In a statement, the Liberal Party said that it has been “maximizing the capacity of event spaces” with “record assistance to campaign events throughout the country.”
The game did not answer a follow -up question that indicated that the maximum capacity of the Richmond rally room is 1,100 people, even less in some arrangements, much less than the liberal claim of 2,000 attendees.
No campaign provided specific evidence of how they reached their crowd.
The conservative leader Pierre Poilievre, who speaks from Edmonton on the 17th of the electoral campaign, answers a question in the world and sends by mail about whether the size of its manifestations is important, and if his comments on the “mafia of the alarm clock” and the discouraging of the CBC are expanding support for liberals.
It is not unusual for the number of crowds to “inflate to adapt to political will,” he still said.
“The important thing is that these are well -assisted manifestations of people who are supporters of any party with which they are.
He still says that the images of manifestations by campaigns are designed to show a crowd full near the politician: the center of attention.
“What would be better for public relations purposes: full area, crowds that are waiting outside or the same number of people in a much larger space, but extend?”
“In summary, events usually climb the room to adapt to early numbers.”
Analysts have He also told CBC News That size of the crowd has little correlation with electoral success.